, ISBN-13 Why did many Roberts family members say Brushy was not Oliver P.? In 1950, a mysterious man known as Brushy Bill Roberts, confessed that he was the real Billy the Kid and petitioned the governor of New Mexico for a pardon for crimes committed under that name.

Also, read the various discrepancies and questions surrounding all the accounts of the shooting by clicking here. Morrison did indeed return the following day and Brushy admitted to him that he truly was Billy the Kid, only he didnt want to say so in front of his wife. : The Legend of Brushy Bill has been added to your Cart. : Or did he shoot a man that looked like him? We dont share your credit card details with third-party sellers, and we dont sell your information to others. Brushy Bill had a well-known association with J. Frank Dalton, a proven false Jesse James claimant. Thomas McKinney, and the vast majority of everyone else who claimed to have seen the body of the man Garrett killed agreed to this. Upon entering the conference room, they were shocked at what they saw.

Brushy talked with them all about events from his past as Billy the Kid and all three signed affidavits attesting to the fact that Billy the Kid and Brushy Bill were one and the same. However, the men asking the questions seemed to treat the affair as something as a joke, and asked primarily only meaningless questions (i.e. They've battled many evil men across the frontier. Brushy invited the visitor inside and introduced him to his wife, Melinda. Brushy said that when he went to trial, his first indictment was for the murder of Buckshot Roberts and he was represented by Ira Leonard. In order to first read the detailed accounts of Pat Garrett and Brushy Bill Roberts in regards to the night of July 14, 1881, click here.

And its a good one. One day in the 1940s, Brushy was walking down a street in Hico. Why did he change his middle initial from P. to L.? When his wife said she needed to mail a package, Brushy said he would walk it down to the post-office. In truth, Brushy was completely literate. Please try again. He helps Holmes solve a famous mystery in this fun, re-imagined version of the classic story.

Brushy Bill had each and every scar Billy was said to have (and more). Jim Tully, a good friend of Brushy's, signed an affidavit that Brushy was completely literate. It is my hope that by doing this, other website operators will also change their approach to this topic and try to provide an equal platform for both sides of this debate. Throughout this early correspondence, Morrison was careful not to reveal what exactly Hines had told him about his true identity. Badly frightened, Brushy apparently suffered a small stroke, and when the questioning began, he failed miserably. We examine his claims, compare the two men and much much more!SUBSCRIBE NOW!! Somewhat disappointed, Morrison decided to leave, but asked Brushy if it might be possible to take a trip to Mexico some day soon to interview his brother. A Matter of Trust: London Calling Book One, Bad People: Four terrifying short novels of suspense, Of Windmills and War (The War Trilogy - Book 1), Dodge City: Frontier Babylon (The Ballad of Shannon Dumas Book 2), Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Select the department you want to search in, Free returns are available for the shipping address you chose. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. But did things really go down like that?

Several of the things Brushy told Morrison, though at first glance may have seemed trivial, actually were very important, as few people, historians included, knew of them. This book is the story of Brushy Bill Roberts, and you're going to interested in what he has to say.You can pick up his book anywhere! Garret, recognizing the Kids voice, drew his revolver and shot twice, the first bullet struck Billy in the chest, just above the heart. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists.

Marshal investigating train robberies; joined the Rough Riders and went to Cuba; briefly operated his own Wild West Show; fought for Villa and Carranza in the Mexican Revolution; worked as a plainclothes policeman in Gladewater, Texas; married four times; and used a dozen aliases. All the while, the pair were careful to make sure that Mrs. Roberts was kept in the dark over the entire proceedings, as Brushy didnt want her to learn his true identity and be disgusted with him for his reputation.

When Morrison first met Brushy, he was going by the name of Oliver L. Roberts. He gave Billys current name as Ollie L. Brushy Bill Roberts and his address as Hamilton, Texas.

Severo Gallegos, Jose Montoya, and Martile Able, all surviving friends of Billy the Kid, met with Brushy Bill separately. Try again. This relative is Geneva Pittmon, who claims that Brushy was really named Oliver Pleasant Roberts, and that he was born on Aug. 26, 1879 in eastern Texas. - Amazon reviewer. If Brushy was not really Billy the Kid, then why did he come forward and claim he was? https://www.buymeacoffee.com/wildwest Book & Gear Recommendations - https://www.amazon.com/shop/wildwestextravaganza/list/YEHGNY7KFAU7 Brushy Bill Roberts Original Episode - https://www.wildwestextra.com/4-brushy-bill-roberts/ Confessionals Podcast featuring Daniel A. Edwards - https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/theconfessionals/307-billy-the-kid-the-man-who-died-twice Billy the Kid: An Autobiography: The Story of Brushy Bill Roberts by Daniel A. Edwards - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0692437258?asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.YEHGNY7KFAU7 Alias Billy the Kid by Morrison & Sonnichsen - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0692534040?asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.YEHGNY7KFAU7 Santa Rosa NM Supplemental Part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd34jMnXMFU Blood and Dust Podcast featuring Brett L. Hall - https://open.spotify.com/episode/29w5ZlvON8n86XKyTQpshx The Real Billy the Kid aka Brushy Bill Roberts by Brett L. Hall - https://www.amazon.ae/Real-Billy-Brushy-Bill-Roberts/dp/1257177133 Brett Halls YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/brushybret/videos Brushy Bill Proof that his Claim was a Hoax by Roy L. Haws - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1632930552?asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.YEHGNY7KFAU7 Brushy Bill Discussion Forum - https://brushybill.proboards.com/ Bear Grease The Myth of the Southern Mountain Lion - https://www.themeateater.com/listen/bear-grease/ep-1-the-myth-of-the-southern-mountain-lion Young Guns 3 - https://www.looper.com/598520/guns-3-alias-billy-the-kid-release-date-cast-plot/, Lethal Mullet Podcast: Episode 87: Young Guns & The Tale of Brushy Bill Roberts, Lethal Mullet Podcast: Episode 87: Young Guns & The Tale of Brushy Bill Roberts Join Adam, the Lethal Mullet as he looks tonight at the classic pair of westerns all about William H. Bonney (Billy The Kid), and his Regulators! Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. Probate investigator William V. Morrison agreed to interview Brushy Bill, and Brushy admitted to him that he truly was Billy the Kid. Although they did not sign affidavits in support of Brushy, due to the fact that they wanted to avoid any publicity that would bring, they did tell Morrison they believe him to be the Kid. My names Josh and youre listening to the Wild West Extravaganza!

Below, I have written a basic history of the case of Brushy Bill, and then listed the evidence for him as Billy the Kid, the evidence against him as Billy the Kid, the falsely used evidence against him, and a list of questions regarding Brushy that remain unanswered. Bob Young, Alton Thorton, W. F. Hafer, Jimmy Ramage, Ablo Norman, Tom Turner, and L. L. Gamble, all surviving friends of Brushy, said he was either literate, or not sure, but none of them said he was illiterate. Reviewed in the United States on October 1, 2021. Bring your club to Amazon Book Clubs, start a new book club and invite your friends to join, or find a club thats right for you for free. This is false. Mabry, to which Brushy couldn't respond. who is it. Was Brushy Bill really Oliver P. Roberts? We work hard to protect your security and privacy. This book is the story of Brushy Bill Roberts, and you're going to interested in what he has to say.You can pick up his book anywhere! And if not, who the hell was he? If we could prove that itd be massive! Present in the room were several photographers and reporters, armed policemen, Oscar and Jarvis Garrett (Pats sons), Cliff McKinney (Kip McKinneys son), Arcadio Brady (William Bradys grandson), and historians William Keleher, E. B. Mann, and Will Robinson. Real Life can make putting these shows up a bit of challenge but here it is. In his journal, Morrison noted Brushy as being about 58 tall and weighing about 165 pounds, with blue eyes, small hands, large wrists, heavy shoulders, thinning grey hair, high forehead, prominent nose, and large ears. Our payment security system encrypts your information during transmission. Still, Brushy asked Young to look up an old friend of his, Jimmy McDaniels (a former member of the Jessie Evans Gang and veteran of the Lincoln County War), who also lived in Round Rock. Upon hearing this, the old man looked as if he had been badly frightened. Perfect for fans of Nora Roberts! Witnesses said that Brushy whirled around and reached for an imaginary pistol. In the summer of 1950, Morrison moved, along with his family, to El Paso, Texas, in order to be closer to anything he may need in his investigation. Sorry, there was a problem loading this page. Several of the things he knew were known to only a few people at the time, including historians. Brushy then went on to say that he knew he didnt have many years left in him and wanted to die with the full pardon he had been promised by Gov. It's a interesting story. Hines was claiming that the land of his recently deceased brother now belonged entirely to him, since he was the only surviving heir. Full content visible, double tap to read brief content. : Over the next several months, Morrison met with Brushy several times and recorded his story in his journal and with a tape recorder. https://anchor.fm/app, The outlaw Billy the Kid was allegedly killed at the age of 21 by Sheriff Pat Garrett in the year 1881. Less than a month later on December 27th, 1950, Roberts would suffer a fatal heart attack and needless to say, the pardon never came. Cold Case: Billy the Kid: Investigating History's Mysteries, Previous page of related Sponsored Products, Can the friendship of 10 year old prevent an ex con from destroying his future? , ISBN-10

My friends and I played Young Guns at recess. In 1990, the famous tintype of Billy the Kid, a purported photo of the Kid at age 12, a photo of Brushy at age 14, and a photo of Brushy at age 90 were analyzed in the Acton-Bovik photo study. Believing that Brushy could be the real deal, Morrison promised him he would do all he could to help obtain a pardon, provided Brushy would allow him to investigate further into his history to find more proof that he was authentic. For example, Brushy said that John Selman fought on the McSween side in the Lincoln County War. In the meantime, Morrison was to continue working on his case. Since Brushy was so young and Catherine moved around so much, everyone just assumed that Brushy was her son. Sheriff Pat Garrett said he killed Billy the Kid, and Dep. https://www.wildwestextra.com/ Buy me a coffee! Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2022, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates, Eligible for Return, Refund or Replacement within 30 days of receipt, Learn more how customers reviews work on Amazon. This held a special interest for Morrison, since he was related to the Maxwell family of Fort Sumner. Brushy - with the help of an attorney named William V. Morrison - spent around two years compiling evidence, conducting interviews, researching, documenting all kinds of stuff for the purpose of both proving these claims and obtaining a pardon for Mr. Roberts; the same pardon that Billy the Kid was promised back in the day. Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. It has also been claimed that Brushy could not speak Spanish, whereas Billy the Kid could. Also if not, why would Geneva Pittmon say they were? In fact, both the Kid and Brushy were ambidextrous. [{"displayPrice":"$10.95","priceAmount":10.95,"currencySymbol":"$","integerValue":"10","decimalSeparator":".","fractionalValue":"95","symbolPosition":"left","hasSpace":false,"showFractionalPartIfEmpty":true,"offerListingId":"N4w10PvXG%2BlH8l7STp60JOzLQJKvRdQAlbsplM8bn4Tz9CYNANm2IY33oTQTDR1CSOzJPFGOTbHRJwNOmAyT7TT0ba3hzF6qHseNXGPmVyxuOGfKtTYA9uALAkSx%2Bg63lyKfNoWBtcRt5tyMyw6hSQ%3D%3D","locale":"en-US","buyingOptionType":"NEW"}]. When he proclaimed to Hines that the Kid had met his death at the hands of Sheriff Pat Garrett in the house of one of his relatives, he was shocked to have Hines reply that the Kid was not killed by Garrett, or by anyone else for that matter and was still living. In 1950, a mysterious man known as Brushy Bill Roberts, confessed that he was the real Billy the Kid and petitioned the governor of New Mexico for a pardon for crimes committed under that name. Did Pat Garrett shoot him in the dark after he heard the kid say (Quien es!) He meant to say he was not a. Im not some sort of wild west grinch just trying to suck the fun out of everything. I did not know if I should believe what was written or not.Some things were interesting and to think about.

, Paperback Bill and Sam Jones, also surviving friends of Billy the Kid, also met with Brushy Bill. Brushy agreed, and the two parted company for the day. Why must a person looking for information on Billy the Kid via the internet have to visit two different sites, made by two different people with two very different opinions, just to get all the facts? Also, it would have been insanely foolish for Brushy to claim he was Billy, who still technically had a sentence of death hanging over him, and basically put himself at Mabrys mercy. : If he was really Oliver P., then how did Brushy come by so much knowledge of Billy the Kid, when he would have been far too young to have even participated in the Lincoln County War?

When it came to the events of the night of July 14, 1881, Brushy said that a man named Billy Barlow was killed by Pat Garrett. https://www.amazon.ae/Real-Billy-Brushy-Bill-Roberts/dp/1257177133 Learn more about your ad choices. Read instantly on your browser with Kindle Cloud Reader. Brushy also claimed that after he fled Silver City in 1875 up until fall 1877, he basically traveled over the entire West (Arizona, Montana, Wyoming, Nebraska, and Oregon), making a living as a bronc rider. how many girlfriends he had, did he enjoy stealing livestock, etc.).

Barlow, he said, was partially Mexican, had a beard, looked like the Kid, was a little younger than the Kid, and was possibly related to the Clements family, the cousins of John Wesley Hardin. You're listening to a sample of the Audible audio edition. . Not one person who was at the meeting ever mentioned this happening. Can a Texas Ranger tame Dodge City in book two of the Ballad of Shannon Dumas? John Poe, Dep. But, these creatures are not human. He completely forgot basic information about himself , and, when he was asked a serious question regarding the past of Billy the Kid, he forgot that as well. When his sons calmed him down, Anthony said that Brushy was the Kid. https://www.amazon.ae/Real-Billy-Brushy-Bill-Roberts/dp/1257177133, History reports that Billy the Kid was killed in 1881. Afterwards, Morrison wrote a report entitled A Statement of Facts, which stated that Billy Bonney was promised a pardon in 1879 by Gov. According to people who knew them, both Brushy and the Kid could write and shoot just as well with either hand. There was a problem loading your book clubs. When the time came for Young to return home, Brushy regretfully said he couldnt accompany him, since his wife was sick.

After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. The Legend of Brushy Bill Roberts: A Wild West Love Story. Through census records, it is easy to track the life of this Oliver P. Roberts. However, Selman did not fight for either side and didnt even arrive in Lincoln until after the final battle of the war. And then some. If Brushy was not Billy the Kid, why did he not go along with the traditional origin of Billy the Kid (that he was born on Nov. 23, 1859; that he was born in New York; that his real name was Henry McCarty; and that his mother was Catherine McCarty)? kid billy william western west It was a Frontier Babylon full of cretins, cutthroats, and cardsharks. And, finally, if Brushy was really Oliver P., then what happened to the real William Henry Roberts? Bloodybeaverpodcast@gmail.com, Today on the podcast we explore the legend of Brushy Bill Roberts, an old man that came forward claiming to be the one and only William H. Bonney, aka Billy the Kid. The study used the most advanced photo comparison equipment around as well as the best scientists. And, finally, to end on the same note that C. L. Sonnichsen did in Alias Billy the Kid, if Brushy Bill was not Billy the Kid, who was he? In 1949, Morrison took Brushy Bill to the old Lincoln County courthouse, which also once served as the Murphy-Dolan-Riley store. In the courthouse in Lincoln, Brushy detailed to Morrison how he, as Billy the Kid, made his famous escape and killed deputies Bob Olinger and James Bell. Realizing he wasnt alone, Billy spoke his final words quien es? who is it? Some of these items ship sooner than the others. He swore for the rest of his life that Brushy was the Kid. : Giving up on the McDaniels angle, Morrison wrote to Brushy and told him that he would like to meet him. However, there exists no contemporary evidence that the real Billy the Kid ever left the care of Catherine McCarty, especially for so long a time period.

Help others learn more about this product by uploading a video! !ITunes - apple.co/1OEAkRgGoogle Play - bit.ly/2hBPRuyStitcher - bit.ly/1COaXviSoundcloud - bit.ly/1LFXwwbYouTube - bit.ly/1QrccFO, Episode 39: Brushy Bill Seeks Enlightenment. A visit to her past life. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we dont use a simple average. Earlier, Morrison had been given the names Billys remaining acquaintances by other respected historians such as Maurice Fulton and William Keleher. Further intrigued, Morrison probed Hines for the Kids name and address and the old man finally consented. Brushy was able to obtain a meeting with the then Governor of New Mexico but it was a no use. Mosquito Man: A scary psychological thriller by the new master of horror (World's S Island of the Dolls (World's Scariest Places). Bob Young, a native of Round Rock, Texas, visited Hamilton, Texas in 1930 and first met Brushy Bill. Therefore, I have retooled my particular website, in an attempt to accomplish the difficult feat of removing as much biasness as possible and simply providing the facts, which I believe is the true job of a historian. Using your mobile phone camera - scan the code below and download the Kindle app. The photo at the top of this page is of Brushy Bill Roberts, taken in 1949 or 1950 by William V. Morrison. Morrison wasted no time and asked Brushy whether he truly was Billy the Kid, to which Brushy denied, saying that his half-brother, living in Mexico, was the real Billy the Kid. Shortly thereafter, Gov. Again with the help of Andress, Morrison filed for the petition for the pardon on Nov. 15, 1950. Brushy also said that he doubted that Billy Barlow was the man's real name. Tina! There exists no evidence, other than the word of Brushy Bill, that Billy Barlow, the man Brushy said Garrett really killed, ever existed. Brushy claimed that throughout 1871-1874, he left the care of Catherine McCarty a few times to visit his biological father, James Roberts, in Texas, and ended up staying with him a total of two years. Read now to find out about this exciting relationship. The reason people think he was non-fluent in Spanish is because a myth started that Jarvis Garrett (or Oscar Garrett or Arcadio Brady, depending on which version of the myth you heard) asked Brushy a question in Spanish at the meeting with Gov. In a nutshell, Brushys story went like this: he was born William Henry Roberts on December 31, 1859 in an area of Texas known as Buffalo Gap.

As he walked down the street, Brushy suffered a sudden heart attack. The two became friends and Brushy informed Young that he would like to accompany him on his return to Round Rock. Young Guns, and Young Guns 2 were amazing game changers for the western genre.All weekly on Lethal Mullet Network!Where to find us:Find us on Podbean: lethalmulletnework.podbean.comYou can find The MandoMullet Podcast on:Apple / Google Play / Spotify / Stitcher / IHeartRadioContact:Adam on: @thelethalmulletTwitter / Facebook / Instagram#action #movies #eighties #celebration #australia #mullets #adamobrien #martialarts #billythekid #youngguns #youngguns2#lethalmulletnetwork #lethalmulletpodcast, Did Billy the kid die in 1881 or 1950? Unfortunately, I dont think it can be proven. When Brushy told of his days as Billy the Kid from 1877 to 1881, Morrison determined that Brushy knew way too much about the history of the Kid and the Lincoln County War to have read all about it. No contemporary account carries any mention of the gunfight that Brushy claimed transpired between himself and Garrett, Poe, and McKinney after Barlow was killed. Jessie Evans, or Joe Hines as he was later known, confirmed to Morrison that Brushy Bill was the Kid. Brief content visible, double tap to read full content. Abandon all hope and join me if you dare! Stating he felt ill, he was eventually taken to another room to lie down. So, here is the new Brushy Bill Roberts section of my website. This really did happen, but only posse member Jim East knew of it and he only spoke of it in a letter he wrote to fellow lawman Charlie Siringo. : The photo of Brushy at age 90 had a 93% match to the famous tintype. This got me thinking: why cant just one website show both sides of the argument equally, without letting personal beliefs affect the matter? Indeed, it would have been extremely likely that he would have adopted another name to live his new life under since he had shown such a propensity for adopting alias' for most of his life. In 1948, William V. Morrison, a probate investigator working in St. Louis, Missouri, was sent to Florida to work on the case of an elderly man named Joe Hines. You decide, The Real Billy the Kid AKA Brushy Bill Roberts - Interview w/ Author Brett L. Hall, History reports that Billy the Kid was killed in 1881. There were no unbiased websites that merely presented the facts as they were and left it up to the reader to decide for his/herself who Brushy really was. The theory that he was illiterate sprang from a quote C. L. Sonnichsen wrote in his book, that Roberts was "not a literate man."

Find a funny book instead. Matter of fact, Im pretty positive the opposite is true. A few hours later, Brushy and Morrison arrived at Mabrys mansion. Was Brushy Bill really Billy The Kid? One day in 1945, Brushy was walking down a Hico street. In June of 1949, enter William Henry Brushy Bill Roberts who claimed to be Billy the kid. In short, the private meeting had developed into a media circus. Morrison immediately telephoned Mabry, who apologized for making the announcement, but reassured him that the meeting would still be kept private. A World War II must read. Brushy Bill has piqued my curiosity since I was a little kid, ever since I first watched Young Guns 2. Although this is technically not evidence against Brushys own claim, it does cast a serious shadow of doubt on his own credibility. He said that Catherine McCarty was not his mother, but his maternal half-aunt. Mabry made an announcement that he was not going to pardon Brushy, because he did not believe him to be Billy the Kid. The photo purported to be a 12 year old Billy the Kid was determined to not be him. Youll love this time travel romance with a twist. , Dimensions That's $5.00 and two hours of my life, I'll never get back. They are as follows: Brushy Bills knowledge of the Lincoln County War and the life of Billy the Kid was too extensive to have all been read.

In Hico, Brushy was reexamined by Dr. W. F. Hafer and told to get as much rest as possible.

Also walking down the street was a five year old boy and his mother. Two families torn by the horrors of war. This item can be returned in its original condition for a full refund or replacement within 30 days of receipt. Also of note: there have been six books written on the Brushy Bill controversy. I would love to hear any questions, thoughts or suggestions on this. Shipping cost, delivery date, and order total (including tax) shown at checkout. Disappointed, Morrison took Brushy to a local doctor, Stan Lloyd, and when he was well enough, he took him home to Hico. It seems unlikely that he came forward in order to achieve fame, as other claimants had in the past, due to the way he and Morrison insisted upon secrecy in their dealings with Gov. This is true, but very, very few researchers knew of this back during the time Brushy made his claim. In the building, Brushy described how the building looked during the Kid's incarceration there to a T. Every little detail of how the building looked in 1881, Brushy knew. Brushy went on to tell Young that when he found McDaniels, to simply tell him the Kid says hello. When Young returned to Round Rock, he met with McDaniels and delivered Brushys message. It documents Roberts' story and investigates it word for word. However, Sonnichsen later said he wished he never wrote that because he meant that Brushy wasn't the type of person who would sit around all day reading history books. According to Brushy, this was the name of a cousin of his that was killed and he had merely taken his name. First of all sorry this is a little late. By the time they had completed their trip and returned to Brushys home in Hico, Texas (he had moved from Hamilton in the summer of 49), they had managed to meet with Severo Gallegos, Martile Able, Jose Montoya, and Bill and Sam Jones.

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