and about 3/16 in. Excellent post Kari! Thank you Kari for the dimensions, and thanks Bob for the great information you added to the post. Traditionally it's done with quartersawn beech but that's really, really hard to find in 16/4. Forgot I had it thanks for the tip and reminder. Fig. The latter is called half pitch. It must be an important escapement. Then take a tracing of the drawing; place this on the end of the plane, and mark the different lines of the moulding so as to get angles for the different members. One is A. Mathieson, the other Alex Mathieson. Thanks for sharing. The act of planing causes backward force on the iron. Then gauge for the springing-on of the sole, which graduates according to the different sizes from 3/16 in. The total cost of materials was $144 to make 17 moulding planes and 2 snipes bills. Agreed on Larry's video. Thanks, Dean. The foregoing instructions apply to all kinds of moulding planes, the only difficulty is in setting out the different mouldings; the method of doing this will be explained further on. To make the half set of hollows and rounds, they should all be cut from one piece of wood, which should be as free from knots as possible. When this is done cut the mouth with a slight tap of the hammer, so as to prevent the moulding from springing when the iron is in. Beads are mostly slipped on the side to the 1/2-in. If you dont mind Id like to ask for your advice when I get to the point of making a couple snipe bill planes. Because the tangs are 1/4" wide and the handholds are 3/4" thick, the walls inside the mortise are 1/4" thick.I *think* planes made in the 18th-century are the longer ones9.5".

Your email address will not be published. Do you have the Larry Williams video on making side escapement planes? In one of your pictures, there is a blueprint of the snipes bill plane that you are making. We run our website based on principles of integrity, and dont recommend any product that we wouldnt use ourselves. Good luck making your plane!

larger than the size wanted and cut out with a saw, planed, cleaned, and put back. The snipes bills have persimmon "boxing," which is what Clark and Williams use. for an ovolo (see Fig. Those look great Kari, as always. Below you will find free resources that accompanythe video Choosing, Refurbishing & Using Moulding Planes with Bill Anderson. You can purchase the DVD or Digital Download right here. Next bring the long end of the springing square to the point of the fence line, and draw a line B G, which will be at right angles to the first line drawn called the springing line. You have to expect to end up with some dogs, but the price is right. mwh, you can fix up some moulding planes. After this is done, take a cod plane (see Fig. Lovely planes Kari. They are seldom used by other mechanics. etc.I'd welcome any feedback from the moulding plane users out there. Change). Bluing of the iron is of no consequence at this point in the process, that can all be taken out when it is hand filed to the final shape. document.write(new Date().getFullYear()); You'll want to orient the grain so it's running downhill on the sole and also consider any defects in the wood. File in the iron, harden and temper, grind the face straight and the back a little hollow; then, if the bed is pared a little hollow likewise, there will be no difficulty in bedding. Thanks Steve I actually do have one I bought years ago from LN. I dont know if I should ask him, is it impolite to do so, will he get offended???? Pattern of Pitch Board for all Common and Flat planes. Jeff Murray, a reader of the blog from Greenwood, Indiana got in touch about John Moseley moulding planes.

I love the soundtrack!All the best,Doug. Anyway, here are my drawings for the no.15, they are in A3 and in inches. Hi ToddSorry for the late reply, just saw your commentsYes, the book is called Wooden planes in 18 century America (part of a 2 books set)By Kenneth D Roberts and yes, that is a tool catalog on top of it, Sandusky Tools Co.You can see more about these in a previous post of mine, back on 14 Oct 2015; About wooden planes restorations, Step 1 identificationCheers Bob, Molding or Moulding planes? He offers it as an option for his rabbet planes as well. I have seen some that are way out of whack. along the stop line, and take the springing square to the point measure and strike a line HK; this is the line of the square of the ovolo. Granted, its only for a few of the largest planes but its gonna happen. 11 shows the pattern of pitch board used for cabinet-makers moulding planes, and Fig. on each square line of the ovolos to give the sizes of the squares; then with the compasses strike an arc touching both points of the square. Dang! and strike the bed line; from this line measure 3/16 in. from the back of the plane on the sole and each end; this is the fence line. from the square of the ovolo line down, and take the short end of the springing square and strike a line F G from the point measure right across, which gives the stop fence line; then measure with the compasses from the point where the fence line meets the stop line 5/8 in. 12 the pattern of pitch board for all common and flat planes. Lets have a closer look at my "assortment" of eight No 16 H&R look-A-Like. For instance, he marks all of his layout lines on the beech blank and cuts half of them off only to redraw them. Thanks for your post on making a pair of snipe bill planes. Great looking planes Kari. I hope he'll be at WIA so I can see them in person. hello karithanks for letting me participate in the making escapement side planes and congratulations on your masterpieces, you now have two new planes to add in your beautiful tools cabinet almost empty.ciao Vittorio. Kari,Fantastic job on the planes! Then with a saw cut in the mouth along the bed and front line down to the springing line on the sole and through the side just to the handhold; with a small chisel push with the hand and knock the core out, and with a thin chisel sink down to a level with the springing line and the back line of mortise; then bore from the centre of the mortise to the centre of the mouth, and take a small saw float and open the mortise; pare the bed clean, and with a square float (see Fig. They are very well-made 19thc planes with sharp boxing and a nice wedges. Feel free to ask more questions anytime. This can be hard to do online and I've gotten a few that were irreparable because of this. Im sure its not quite easy as this, but here are some notes he sent to me. You can buy one good new plane for a couple hundred, or two to four old planes for $75-$100 to get one or two good users.When I'm looking for molding planes, there's a few things I look for. The snipes bills turned out real nice, Im looking forward in making my own set of moulding planes and others profiles as I too cannot afford to spend $3000 for a small set of hollows and rounds. He knows way more than I do about antique planes. I dont think so but these guys are crucial to us the users because once theyre gone they will sell for double in antique shops, eBay and tool dealers. 15) and make the bead A (Fig. Hollow No 16. I think that C&W tapers their blades so they always bed correctly. 16) and 1/2 in. The rule in all moulding planes is to allow the handhold to be 1/4 in. Backing Plane (Mother Plane) for Ovolo Sash Saddle template. If so, is this typical for molding plane blanks or are some bigger depending on the blade type / configuration? A 1-1/4 in blade can cut a circle twice its size (twice its radius). to 5 in. 24); then draw line B C from the point C; this is the fence line. Next to hollows and rounds, bead planes (Figs. Common Ovolo Scale. I expect he will get lots of attention from show-goers. Steps 1-5 | Beginners Guide to Hand Tool Woodworking, Step 1: Understand & Buy the Right Woodworking Hand Tools, Step 2: Setup your Woodworking Workshop & Tool Storage, Step 3: Learn how to Refurbish, Tune & Sharpen Hand Tools, Step 4: Learn How to Use Woodworking Hand Tools, Step 5: Learn How to Design Furniture for Woodworking Projects, Steps 6-10 | Beginners Guide to Hand Tool Woodworking, Step 6: Learn How to Choose Stable, Strong & Beautiful Wood, Step 7: How to Make Wood Square, Flat, Straight & Smooth, Step 8: JOINERY: LEARN HOW TO LAYOUT & CUT JOINTS, Step 9: Learn How to Assemble, Fasten & Glue-up Woodworking Projects, Step 10: Learn How to Finish Woodworking Projects, Resources: Choosing, Refurbishing & Using Moulding Planes with Bill Anderson, Grinding and Shaping Moulding Plane Irons, Make aWooden Molding Plane with Bill Anderson, How to Choose Wood Lumber for Woodworking | 7 Easy Steps, How to Square, Flatten, and Dimension Rough Boards with Hand Tools, How to Make a Mortise and Tenon Joint with Woodworking Hand Tools, Privacy Policy, Rules, Terms & Conditions. I spoke to a tool maker and asked him who is your biggest clients and he was honest when he answered the hobbyists who are bankers, accountants etc. ; ), Thanks once again Kari. However, with the tapered iron, the taper resists the force of planing. If you do get ahold of a nice big beech log, don't forget about your buddies! However, I dont recommend it because the grain twisted and turns and is hard to machine. I've been waiting for this post as I was following your class progress on Twitter. I've had good luck with ebay, but I've bought some worthless examples from there as well. With the gauge set to 9/16 in., mark both ends and sole; then take the springing square, fix the spring required, and strike the line A C (see Fig. Nice post. If not, you should get it, it will answer most of your questions. Well, moulding is the old English term, and also what we still used here in Canada, so moulding it is, same as colour, flavour and etc :-). So, correct me if Im wrong, but if I purchase some 8/4 by 4 inch wide quarter sawn beech and cut it to a 9 1/2 inch length (plus a little longer for waste), I should have a starting blank that I can trim to a final dimension of 2 x 3 1/2 x 9 1/2. Pete, I'll really look forward to talking with Matt at WIA and getting an up close look at his planes.

and strike the mouth line; from the bed line strike on both sides of the wood the pitch of the bed. Then measure with the compasses a full 1/8 in. The sizes graduate from 1/2 in. I am planning on making a few side beads and a set of side rounds. to 3/8 in. Hollows, rounds, and rebate planes, however, are excepted; these should be as straight as possible, because the rebate plane, owing to its being cut through, is liable to cast if it is not straight-grained; and most of the hollows and rounds being very thin, are liable to cast if not of straight, mild, and well-seasoned wood. Hopefully some other people will offer their thoughts. in width, and they are all 9 1/2 in. Blade width is length of radius, and cut a 60 degrees arc of the circle. If I bought a log and rived it into billets, in four or five years I'd have quartersawn beech coming out of my ears! Thanks, Jonathan!John, I wondered about Matt's planes but have never seen them in person. 18. long by 1 1/2 in. I've also thought about checking with some of the local tree services to see if they ever cut any beeches. and could be stamped No 9, No 16, No 180 and etc. You could print a scale on your chart table. This is one of the irons that I cut out of a piece of tool steel with a cut off wheel on my angle grinder and then changed to a grinding wheel to taper the tang. Does this pose any problems?Jamie Bacon. Any product claim about a service or product should be verified with the manufacturer.

As I said before, he also marks his layout lines on his stock and then planes half of them off just to then redo them, which seems like a waste of time in my opinion. 13 and 14); then take the backing plane and plane down until it stops. It does however behave when sanded. Buying from antique stores or flea markets is a better bet because you can actually inspect them before buying, but the drawback is that the selection and availability is limited in most areas of the country. Ive read quite a bit about the techniques involved in making your own hollows and rounds, but Jeff makes it sound very easy. Fig. All beads are the exact half circles with a quirk. gchpaco, we did use quartersawn, non-laminated beech, but I'm not sure where Tod got it. Handplane Central How much would be reasonable to pay for a vintage molding plane? What this means is that the iron can be fixed in the plane with less wedging pressure, causing less stress on the wedge and plane body. My blacksmithing consists of a propane torch, a metal container of motor oil to harden the irons and finally a toaster oven or regular oven to temper. 16. Front view. I will probably use maple if I can't find quartersawn beech.Thanks, Doug and Jack! In the video by Todd Herrli, he advocates using laminated stock for the body of the planes and if you do some research, you will find that this isnt recommended. The hardest thing to make on the moulding plane is the tapered mortise and that isnt all that difficult. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your account. ; plane up square, and with a plough or tongueing plane plough down about 5/8 in. These guys that are making planes are trying to make a living out of it and to do that they need to run it as a business. Then gauge for width, which is always a third of the width of the handhold. INFILL PLANES SHOWCASEA gallery of beautiful and inspiring infill planes from makers old and new, Copyright 1998 - Today was supposed to be the day when I was going to start on the moulding plane build and I ran into a brick wall again. ovolo sash bar is as follows: The wood size is 8 in. Most, if not all, of the the lumber yards that Ive spoken with that carry qsawn beech wont carry 12/4 or 16/4 product as it cracks too much during the drying process. In addition to the two I own, I've seen the whole range at a show. Chances are it will be a little off, so you'll need to do some reshaping. Subscribe to get Joshua's free traditional woodworking videos, articles & news: 2013 - 2021 Wood and Shop Productions & Joshua T. Farnsworth | All content on is copyrighted and may not be reprinted or used without our written consent. I agree in principal with your assessment on the laminated pieces of qsawn beech he puts forward in the video. Minor chips or crack are ok if you are comfortable reparing them. Anyway, there is an appendix with a bunch of files in Larrys video that should tell you all you need. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); A very random collection of words and pictures related to traditional woodworking tools and their uses. 25), then with a smaller cod plane make bead B; then with a hollow make scotia C, from time to time comparing with the drawings to see that the work is being done correctly. Make sure the wedge isn't broken or if it is, that you can make a replacement. Fig. I found a tool, with markings John Moseley & sons with the London address, also marked JT OSBORNE PRODUCTS, also says RT JONES on it,solid wood, looks like its for making moldings or something, can I send a photo & get you thoughts ? When you get to the wider, more complex moulding planes, the thickness of the handhold increases, but I don't know those dimensions.The blanks for my planes are roughly 9.5" long x 3.5" tall. I can understand where the costs are coming from, you mentioned the timber costs around a $8 piece but the real costs lie in labour. I used water to occasionally cool the steel when it started to discolor. Next, with a rebate plane, rebate out the angles at F, G, H, and K (see Fig. Beauties, Kari! I am not the sort of person who learns from videos well and even I found it worthwhile.,, Work a new magazine for the hand toolwoodworker. In other words, cherry isn't as hard as beech, so I wondered if the sole's profile would become altered over time. I noticed on his video that Todd doesn't use tapered blades as Clark and Williams does. You can get tapered irons for side-escapement planes from Lie Nielsen. This is the size of the mortise. Your video clip makes using a moulding plane look easy. Cod Plane (Full Round Moulder). Let's see Krenovian bench planes, hollows and rounds, and now moulding planes. Making the blades is what scares me about this. Thanks, Darnell. The pic below shows Jeffs plane (top) with one of his vintage Moseleys below. After this is done, measure from the fore end on the sole 3 1/2 in. It sounds like a valuable DVD to have. to 3/4 in. Without having the planes in my hand to reference from its going to be a scratch your head up hill battle. This feature allows me to do a final trimming to make the plane a perfect length. :).

5, p. 8. If this is done well it will be hard to see the join; the object of slipping is to enable the plane to work close up to a moulding. from the springing line down, bring the short end of the springing square to the measured point, and strike a line C D. This gives the depth of fence, and is the line of the square of the ovolo down. Kari,Em and I met Matt at the LN show here in Maryland, he's a great guy, more than willing to talk about the ins and outs of what goes into making his planes, and he'll be at WIA. NOTES: What is that book with the planes in it a old tool catolog? From C measure along line C B a distance of 15/16 in., and draw line D E at right angles to C B; this is the stop fence line, and indicates the depth of the moulding. Jeff. So I turned to autocad and started drawing away, but before I could draw anything, I needed good reference photos of what 18th century moulding planes look like, and tweak them to suit my build. Would love your thoughts, please comment. Take the compasses and measure 5/8 in. Jeff talked about using the Moseley design when he made his own half-set. Gauge a line 1/2 in. As you can see Ive only worked out for one, but how do you work it out for each plane? wider than the rebate; for instance, in a moulding plane 1 3/4 in. (The pics below show the progress of a pair of side snipes.) Notice how the sole is not centered and made to be tilted. This plane is the reverse shape of the desired moulding and is used to cut the profile on a plane blank more quickly and consistently. to the square of the moulding (see Fig. 17. They were and remains, rather expensive to buy anyway (36 planes), so why buy sizes you are not likely to use! The best beads have two slips, the second one to bear the work of the fence. It isnt as difficult as one might imagine to make a moulding plane. Thanks. Beautiful work as usual, Kari. Fig. 11. Matt's planes are great. One person's woodworking journey, with a focus on handtools, a nod to the past, and an appreciation for the creative spirit. The method of letting in the slip is to plough down with an ordinary plough to the depth of 1 in. Regarding the tapered iron, I actually agree with Larry Williams on this. 19, 20, 21, and 22. About the sharpness levels required on moulding pl About wooden plane restoration Part 3 Fine tuning. Home / Resources: Choosing, Refurbishing & Using Moulding Planes with Bill Anderson. in diameter.

You will have a beautiful set of planes with that wood. Mine are 50, but 55 and 60, also in a smoother, sounds like a good idea. Tico, here's how I do it: I work from a home office, I don't have kids, I have a supportive partner, and I ignore the weeds. 23, will now be explained. With that I mean something I can refer to every time I make a new plane, and I will be making a lot of them. Believe me, my angle grinding skills greatly improvided by doing this. width for the larger ones; the smaller ones are ploughed down from 1/4 in to 3/8 in. I am going to make a pair, however I havent decided what I should use for the boxing yet. The blacksmithing isnt that difficult either because you are working with relatively small parts. The same method is applied to common O.G.s; should the moulding be wanted flatter or deeper, the distance on or down must be varied accordingly. Bob, thanks so much for offering your advice!Dean, yes, you have it right regarding the blank. I enjoyed watching the video.But I wanted to use the post to ask a question. This is on my list to get a half set of hollow and rounds among with a post and beam drill press and my shop will be 100% unplugged exept for my lights and tv for watching woodworking DVDs. Easy enough to be fooled, especially if they are both stamped No 16 and both Mathieson & son. I look to make sure the sole is co-planar in front of and behind the blade. If I can't answer them, I'll bug Bob again. I use the wood from old dog planes for this purpose. of No 16s or equivalent. Check that the blade's profile matches the sole's profile. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. 17); in the former instance the size of wood would be 2 in. I could put a mirror at the end of the bench and use such reference lines to get square edges.And like Tico, I wonder how you get so much done. 13. by 2 1/4 in. I appreciate your willingness to share information here. I have his and Tod's and love them both. If users make purchases in those stores (e.g. Dean, here are dimensions for less complex moulding planes, including hollows and rounds. The box is cut from a log about 8 in. I thought that might like to see the picture is my high precision jig for tapering the iron. While the planes will work with a parallel iron, a tapered iron is an improvement. The moulding planes were really neat to make especially since I made 11 of the irons from scratch using an angle grinder. I realised with each planes different width, the wedges thickness will also be different. I've never used a moulding plane, and don't know much about them. Quartersawn beech is really hard to find. Can you share this document or at least point me in the right direction on where to get it? I used this because I just happened some and thought that it would make a good boxing material.

These photos served as a base reference point, theres no measurements I could work from but judging by eye, I know that the smallest 1/8 planes wedge must be about 1/4 thick and the thickest to be about 3/8 and I have a plane that has a 1/2 thick wedge.

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